Field Notes for Transformation

Ep 18: Come and See: Why Joy Is Magnetic with Melissa Meiner

Melissa Meiner’s story is one where faith, music, and leadership keep weaving together in unexpected ways. From a single invitation that reshaped her family’s faith, to discovering her own calling through music and worship. She talks about what it means to lead across different church settings, the power of hospitality, and why unlearning is sometimes just as important as learning.
 
Takeaways
Creativity plants seeds of calling, often before we notice. 
Spiritual formation grows in honesty and shared stories.
Calling needs community - surround yourself with people who see it in you.
Episode field note: At the center of leadership is love. Never forget your first love. 
 
Resources and links
Melissa's Campus Website: https://www.bayhope.church/trinity-campus
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Ep 17: Ecosystems, Not Programs: Discipleship Among the Everyday with Bryan Sallee

In this episode, Lindsay talks with Bryan Sallee, a pastor in Eagle River, Alaska, about what it really takes to cultivate a culture of discipleship in the everyday life of the church. From the challenges of small church leadership to the power of team-based ministry, Bryan shares what he's learning about adaptive leadership, navigating conflict, and building trust.
Takeaways
Adaptive challenges can’t be solved with yesterday’s strategies. 
Discipleship isn’t a pipeline, it’s an ecosystem. 
Transformation is best measured through stories
Field Note: What Are You Willing to Do Within You?
In ministry, it’s easy to chase the big idea. To look out at the future, name the vision, and start sprinting toward it. But what if the real work starts with this question: What are you willing to do within you?
As Eugene Peterson says, this is a long obedience in the same direction.And that kind of obedience doesn’t come quickly.
 
Resources and links
Bryan’s church website: https://skylinefamily.com/
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Ep 16: Healthy Calling, Burnout, and the Way Forward with Dr. Arianna Molloy

Summary
In this conversation, Dr. Arianna Molloy talks about what happens when our deep sense of calling starts to wear thin. She shares her own story of discovering what a healthy calling looks like and how burnout, when left unchecked, can unravel our identity. Arianna reframes calling not as a personal mission to chase but as a relational act. She walks through the signs of burnout, boundaries and why rest is essential. 
 
Takeaways
Burnout isn’t all or nothing but creeps in gradually, and recognizing where we are on the spectrum is part of healing. 
Burnout from calling can cut deep. It can distort your sense of identity and connection to God. 
Rest isn’t what happens after the work, it’s part of the work. 
 
Episode field note: Don’t despise the process of slowing down. 
Rest isn’t the absence of work, it’s a vital part of it. Healthy leaders know that excellent work and excellent work together. 
 
Resources and links
Arianna’s book, Healthy Calling: IV Press
Arianna’s website: https://www.ariannamolloy.com/
 
 
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Ep 15: Leadership that Listens with Ellen Marmon

In this episode, Dr. Ellen Marmon talks about her recent essay, “Operationalizing Humility in the Leadership Classroom: Listening, Apologizing, and Other Awkward Practices”. 
Ellen invites us to consider leadership as more than a set of competencies but a reflection of who we are becoming. She shares how humility, listening, and the courage to apologize are transformative practices. 
Together, we talk about how to create spaces where people feel safe enough to grow, the challenge (and gift) of receiving feedback, and what it means to lead with authenticity. Ellen also offers beautiful reflections on the future of leadership, especially what she’s seeing in emerging generations.
 
Takeaways
Humility isn’t soft; it’s a strength that transforms how we lead and live. 
When leaders create safe spaces, trust grows and transformation follows. 
Authenticity matters, especially to the next generation. 
 
Episode field note: Laughter and hurry reveal the posture of your leadership.
Start by paying attention to two things: laughter and hurry.
Ask yourself:
When was the last time you laughed at yourself, in a good way, in a way that kept things in perspective?
How often does hurry shape your leadership posture?
When we don't take time to laugh at ourselves or slow down enough to notice, we lose access to the very posture (humility) that keeps us grounded in God and connected to others.
 
Resources and links
Ellen’s website: https://asburyseminary.edu/faculty/ellen-marmon/
Ellen’s essay is available in the book Crossroads and Classrooms: https://ethicspress.com/products/crossroads-in-classrooms?INTEGRITY
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Ep 14: The Courage to be Led with Judy Stevenson

In this conversation, Judy Stevenson invites us into her story—not just the polished parts, but the real, Spirit-led journey of leadership, faith, and unlearning.
Judy shares what happened when she chose boldness over comfort, and how that decision cracked open a new season of trust and transformation. We talk about how true leadership isn't about perfect strategy—it’s about people, prayer, and the willingness to be honest about what’s working and what’s not.
From empowering young people to lead, to building a culture of generosity, to helping everyday people see themselves as disciple-makers, Judy’s ministry is a masterclass in making room for the Spirit, for community, and for each other.
 
Takeaways
Boldness isn’t a personality trait—it’s a practice
Leadership grows best in community, not in isolation
Storytelling helps people recognize God’s movement in their own lives
Lay leadership isn’t optional
Self-examination might be the most underrated leadership habit of all
 
 
Episode field note: Practice self examination 
So much of leadership comes down to this:
Do I love Jesus with all my heart, mind, soul, and strength?And do I love the person in front of me—and the people I haven’t met yet? 
Get real about your why.About how your needs are being met. 
 
Resources and links
Judy’s church website: https://maclandcommunity.church/about/
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Ep 13: From Information to Inner Knowing: Practices that Lead To Transformation with Dr. Brian Russell

In this conversation, Dr. Brian Russell shares his journey of spiritual transformation, discussing pivotal moments that ignited his passion for growth and helping others. He reflects on the challenges of navigating multiple identities as a scholar, coach, and spiritual leader, and emphasizes the importance of silence and contemplative practices in fostering inner knowing. Brian also explores the difference between mere information and true understanding of the scriptures, advocating for an approach that invites readers to encounter God. He highlights the significance of suffering in shaping compassion and the need for leaders to create transformative spaces for others. 
 
Episode field note: Not through effort, but through presence. 
Brian suggests a simple practice to start your day:
 
1. Begin with GratitudeWrite down three or four things you’re truly grateful for.Let God fill the space with joy, memory, and grace.
2. Listen to Your BodyPause.Notice: Where do you feel tension? Butterflies? Tightness?Ask gently: What’s bothering me?Write what comes. Let it surface without needing to solve it.
3. Sit with Jesus in Silence“Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner.”Then sit in stillness for five minutes.Not to produce — but to be present.
 
 
 
Resources and links:
Brian’s website: www.brianrussellphd.com
Brian’s book:  Astonished by the Word: Reading Scripture for Deep Knowing
Brian’s Instagram: @yourprofessorforlife
Brian’s X: @briandrussell
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Ep 12: Never Alone: Healing the Soul Wound of Our Time with Michael Adam Beck

In this conversation, Michael Adam Beck discusses his book 'Never Alone' and the urgent need for community in a world plagued by loneliness. He shares personal experiences, including the loss of his brother, and emphasizes the importance of healing in community rather than isolation. Michael critiques individualistic culture and advocates for a collective approach to healing and faith. He also explores fresh expressions of church, the empowerment of lay leadership, and the significance of self-donation over self-preservation in ministry.
 
Takeaways
Healing can only occur in community, not in isolation.
Loneliness is a significant issue in today's society, and the church has a unique role in addressing it.
Self-donation is essential for church vitality, contrasting with self-preservation.
 
Episode field note: 
Spend time with Jesus. Every day.
Take a Sabbath. Every week.
Delight in God. Not because you have to but because you get to.
 
Resources and links
Michael’s website: https://michaeladambeck.com/
Michael’s Book 'Never Alone' - https://www.amazon.com/Never-Alone-Sharing-Community-Lonely/dp/1513815180
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Ep 11: Mistakes, Messiness and Ministry with Mark Youngman

In this conversation, Mark Youngman shares his experiences and insights on leadership, emphasizing the importance of learning from mistakes, embracing messiness, and creating environments that foster growth and transformation. He discusses the balance between transparency and effectiveness in leadership, the significance of small groups, and the core values that guide his ministry. Mark's passion for seeing people thrive in their God-given purpose shines through as he reflects on the journey of discipleship and the impact of community.
Takeaways
Discipleship is a lifelong journey, not an overnight process.
Investing time and effort is crucial for building healthy environments.
Thriving communities often embrace messiness and chaos.
A strong common vision helps navigate challenges in community.
 
Field Note:
The journey of faith is about Jesus, not metrics or systems.
 
Resources and links:
Discipleship work at Providence Church: https://prov.church/discipleship/
Mark’s Website: https://www.markyoungman.com/
Mark’s Instagram: @youngmanmark
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Ep 10: Relationships: The Heart of Discipleship with Velma Tim

In this conversation, Velma Tim shares her transformative journey into mission work, emphasizing the power of storytelling, the importance of relationships in discipleship, and the role of digital media in reaching and empowering others. She discusses how her experiences shaped her understanding of leadership and collaboration, highlighting the significance of vulnerability and clarity of vision in building effective teams. Velma advocates for a shift towards relational leadership and prioritizing genuine connections over superficial interactions.
Takeaways
Storytelling connects people from diverse backgrounds to the larger mission.
Digital spaces offer unique opportunities for discipleship and connection.
Effective discipleship is rooted in genuine relationship.
 
Episode field note:
Sometimes it’s as simple as an invitation. You don’t need a program or permission, just the courage to call someone closer. You might be the voice they are waiting for.
 
Resources and links:
Velma’s websites:
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@velmatim3617
Insagram: @velmatim1_official
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Ep 9: The Power of Identity in Leadership with Wes Olds

In this conversation, Wes Olds shares his transformative journey of discovering his identity as a 'child of God, person of worth' (COGPOW) during one of the most challenging seasons of his life. He discusses the impact of this realization on his personal and leadership style, emphasizing the importance of understanding one's worth beyond performance. Wes also reflects on the joy of witnessing transformation in others, highlighting the signs of genuine change in ministry and personal relationships.
 
Takeaways
The journey of faith involves continuous learning, and the holy spirit plays a crucial role in personal transformation.
Healthy leadership requires intentional practice and behaviors.
Covenant making is a foundational practice for building trust and accountability in leadership.
 
Episode field note:
Before the work begins, build how to work together. Introducing a team covenant can be a culture-shaping game changer. Not a legalistic, multi-page document but a simple, shared agreement created in a season of calm to carry the team through inevitable storms.
Email: Lindsay.m@spiritual-leadership.org for a free covenant building resource.
 
Resources and links:
Wes’ website: https://www.egracechurch.com/
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